Crew Members Station Commander : Allen Stroud Director of Pest Control : Ashley Devine – DrToxic Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow (In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri The Mind of the Spiders : Jon Lunn The Spider’s Story : Oliver Hulme Anchor so you don’t have to : Peter Wotherspoon
Story Time with Allen – the real story of Lave Radio Episode 1
Crew Members Director of Pest Control : Ashley Devine – DrToxic Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire (In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri Lavian Space Program Director : Andy Barnes – Cmdr Kurgol Hick with a Big Stick : Karen Fishwick
Also a tease that something else Elite related is on the cards for Spidermind Games “Well they say that there is no rest for the wicked and for us this is especially true. Keep an eye on this blog for news of an exciting new Elite Dangerous product for anyone who loves non-video Elite Dangerous gaming but can’t get the gang around for a session of EDRPG.”
All profits from trading activities will be increased (the amount of profit will vary depending on what you are shipping and where you’re shipping it to. Rare commodities are excluded from this bonus.)
The materials requested for engineering recipes will be at one rank below the existing ones (cheapening the current cost of engineering your modules.)
In Game Events
This weeks Eagle Eye Systems to defend are LTT 8648 and Lalande 4141 after another week of successful defence by the Anti Xeno Initiative. The AEGIS Ships in Aegis Mega-ships were dispatched to Coquim and LHS 1453 (neither of which were Eagle Eye targets) and wrecked Mega-ships were found in several systems nearby. Cannon’s Lab 69 AIX speculates that both Achenar and Sol are the intended destinations of current Thargoid Activity. (Possible biological attack to disable the governments? Payback for INRA?)
IDA is continuing to haul repair supplies to Titan’s Daughter.
As part of the Bucky Ball Base Jumping (where we are based tonight) at 19:00 game-time tomorrow (Wednesday) night quite a few people will be running the mountain (including folks from Fighter Club I believe). We have an idea to attempt a Gloucester Cheese run (not quite sure what, or who, the cheese will be yet). So even moar maddness bouncing down the hill!
Commander Caractacus_Potts via email (email@example.com)TLDR Is Horizon’s not pay to win too Shan? Guardian and Engineering require Horizons, which is paid for DLC.I sure do love your show, keep up the great work. You have such a great mix of people, with fascinating guests, and I enjoy every episode. Ok, enough fluff, on to the meat of things.I have really been surprised that in your discussions of open only Powerplay that a comparison to Horizons has never come up.
Statements were made that open only would introduce a pay to win element to the game, as those on consoles would have to pay to participate in Powerplay. If a console person wanted the weapons and such that are available only thru pledging to a power, it would cost.
But does not the same hold true with Guardian technology? To get any of that, you have to land on a planet, and that requires Horizons, which costs money. When Frontier released Horizons, did they break the pledges that Shan had researched, or at the later date when the Guardian tech dropped in the game? Or did they sidestep it by doing it in two phases? I don’t recall hearing of a similar upset about that. Since it sounds like Guardian tech is almost a prerequisite for serious Thargoid hunting, and if open only Powerplay is pay to win, then needing Horizons to get Guardian tech certainly makes all the Beyond chapters pay to win as well.
But I don’t consider any of that “pay to win”. There is no win or lose in this game, just participation and progression. If you want to engage in certain aspects of the game, these are the modes of play and costs associated. No big deal. If I want to do any missions that require landing on a planet, I need Horizons. I want to do that, so I pay. Seems reasonable to me, and I don’t see any fundamental principles broken.
Personally, open only is what will settle my decision to engage in Powerplay. I don’t PvP, but all 200 hours or so of my time has been in the open. It is the fact that I am in the galaxy with other commanders that makes Elite so appealing. Listening to your Battle for Lave podcasts really opened my eyes to the intricacies of it, which I find fascinating, but it is the ability to team up with other commanders to accomplish shared goals that really hooks me. But not if I am playing against people that I can’t counter. I understand that instancing and other technical issues won’t make this a perfect system, there will likely always be some sort of exploit, but in my eyes, the idea of engaging with other commanders is fundamental principle of Powerplay, and that necessitates open only. If Frontier chooses to keep solo as an option, then I won’t participate. It is not a big deal, I have plenty of other things to do in this galaxy. But it seems to me that with solo players and bots making the efforts of commanders playing in open seem so futile, that the number of commanders willing to fight that hard for nothing will dwindle, and the bots will end up running the galaxy. I, for one, welcome our new Borg overlords!!!
All the best, Commanders.
CXXXS on Reddit Sorry if it’s been asked before, but is there any chance your podcast may one day be available on Spotify? I’ve recently made a switch to it as my primary podcast app. Just curious.
Ben has filled out a form to hopefully get LR into Spotify and Google Play (possibly only in the US)
From Eric E Devo on Twitter :- I love this cast, and this community. Perhaps you can recruit an optimist or two for the upcoming content reviews – it seems like the podcast has become about 20 minutes of good content with an hour of whinging tacked on. There must be some optimism among you, surely
Crew Members Director of Pest Control : Ashley Devine – DrToxic Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow (In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri Knight Extruder Operator : Andy Barnes – Cmdr Kurgol Man with a Mission : Adam Bourke-Waite (Frontier) Shunt Ed : Will Flanagan (Frontier)
Thargoid Attack Status – Thanks to Factabulous has collected data, provided by commanders using the the eagle eye network, and produced a list of possible thargoid targets. To help stop thargoid station attacks, check out this thread.
Soloing a Cyclops in an Imperial Eagle! – The Anti Xeno Initiative have done it again. Cmdr Gluttony Fang soloed a Cycopse with just an Imperial Eagle (but with a Guardian Gauss Cannon).Community Corner
The (Non) Return of the Code – The Code have claimed they have never left (although they have been very quiet). Word of warning to all traders, you will get three challenges and if you do not comply then they will attack. If you don’t get your three challenges, then the attacker is not from the code. Normally these guys role play ok, but it’s better to lose a little cargo and have a bit of RP than the rebuy + cargo loss.
Crew Members Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow (In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri Knight Extruder Operator : Andy Barnes – Cmdr Kurgol Alliance Office of Statistics : Cmdr Tom D Alliance Office of Statistics’ Lead Bot Investigator : JTrinity – Jess Patreus Planning Proletariat : Misaniovent
Crew Members Director of Pest Control : Ashley Devine – DrToxic Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow (In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri Knight Extruder Operator : Andy Barnes – Cmdr Kurgol The Mind of the Spiders : Jon Lunn The Spider’s Story : Oliver Hulme
Crew Members Director of Pest Control : Ashley Devine – DrToxic Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Head of Entertainment : Chris Jarvis – Cmdr Thane Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow (In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri
Hailing the crew of the orange sidewinder!I’m doing the London Marathon in 2018 for my charity running club (Coco) so I need to raise £2000. I’ve got various ideas to get there but I also thought I could do a separate joint set of fundraising with SpecialEffect after hearing all about them on LaveRadio.
I tweeted the following which (by my very limited social media standards!) got loads of retweets and likes:
@EliteDangerous I’ve won a place in the @LondonMarathon with @TeamCOCO_run , I’m raising money for them and @SpecialEffect at https://t.co/aUD50F4G1N Please can you help me raise £2000?The Virgin Money page splits 50/50 between special effect and Coco. Coco basically help teach or train children in africa so they can improve their situation. The running club is an online one and exists purely to raise money for the main charity. An example of their work: http://mailchi.mp/coco/become-a-coco-champion-this-christmas-1263801
I’ve been a fan of the show since about episode 6 (I went back and listened to episodes 1-5!) and usually listen while running. So there is a sort of link there. I started playing Elite in about ’87 on a BBC B and have played many versions from then on. So yes, I’m now over 40 (just!) and a fully qualified forum dad!
So, I was hoping I could get a shout out on the show? I’m up for doing something more involved if you’d like me to. Surely some other Elite players must be running it too? maybe you can help us get in touch with each other? Or if anyone has any fundraising ideas they’d like to share (I’m already thinking of a gin tasting party). Or maybe we can persuade Grant to take up running to fill his time now his bathroom traumas seem to be easing… (ok, maybe not that last one!)
Dave / CMDR Hoopy / @hooperdave
Elite Yuletube is coming from a group of wonderful Commanders. With three months in the making they are releasing a video everyday starting from December 13th, each following an overall story arch.
Crew Members Director of Pest Control : Ashley Devine – DrToxic Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire (In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri
Can be found in NHSS Threat level 6. Estimated 540m/s max speed(faster than cyclops), 5 hearts, swarm size of 64 rather than 32.. Needs at least a full wing.
First KIll Claimed by the Sovereignty -Took 12 of them to do it and it behaved “differently” to other Basilisks. They then found one with more usual behavior and got “hammered” The consensus is they are very hard, but also a great challenge and fun
432 hours from start, so not really a big deal, and I wasn’t too focused on it. I stopped to do the engineers for a bit, and when I wanted Imperial rank for one of them, I found a good spot, so I carried on to King. Also, I did a bit of griefer baiting in PvP when I wanted a break from the grind. I think, with what I know now, I could do it again in half the time. ~D8veh
For a number of years Drew Wagar has been supporting (both with time and 10% of the proceeds from his books) an organisation called the March Wood Project, that provides an alternative for youngsters who fall outside of school, college and work and helping them deal with mental health issues and rebuild their lives. Last weekend it was the victim of a robbery and arson attack in which the charity lost everything. Drew is helping them rebuild so their work can continue. Please head to https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/andrew-wagar to support them.
Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow Snake Charmer : Ashley Devine – DrToxic NPC Taskmaster : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri
Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow Chief of Operations : John Stabler – Cmdr Glyndwr Station Commander : Allen Stroud : Cmdr Heldaban Kel Head of Entertainments : Chris Jarvis : Cmdr thane
After a long absence, just in time for Lavecon 2017, Dataslate, the podcast on books and writing, returns!
Book news from Allen Stroud with special guest, Science Fiction writer, Tim C. Taylor, who discusses his popular Military Science Fiction series, The Human Legion. You can find out all about his books over at HumanLegion.com.
Tim should be reading from his series at Lavecon 2017.