Lave Radio Episode 177


ATR’s with fricken lazor beams

Aired 21 Nov 2017
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Crew Members
Station Commander : Allen Stroud
Director of Pest Control : Ashley Devine – DrToxic
Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise
Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire
Chief Bar Steward : Grant Woolcott – Cmdr Psykokow
(In)Human Resources Director : Shan – Cmdr Shanaeri
Space Loach Mouthpiece : Sandro Sammarco

 

Show Notes

  • Development News
  • Newsletter 201
  • Main Discussion Crime and Punishment with Sandro Sammarco

    • This is a snapshot of the design process and thinking and is not representative of what may actually be delivered

    • Design principles behind C&P
      • What is the philosophy behind the C&P design? You have already mentioned it is to simplify, but more specifically is it to prevent certain sorts of play(if so what?), discourage other sorts of play, bring people back to open or to improve the criminal experience?
        • Two factors, There’s the simplification aspect. It’s not to re-invent the wheel.
        • We just want to shore up the consequences, and make them harder to avoid and more robust.
        • Not trying to please everyone, It’s not to “attack” a way of playing, discourage or encourage just to make it better and support the original intentions.
        • All roles need to be as fun as possible, just not equal in challenge.
      • What does success look like? How will Frontier measure how successful the changes have been in an empirical way?
        • Empirical success is that criminals still exist and accept consequences of their actions. Combat logging, Ramming etc cannot be fully solved by C&P and will need the karma system to address further.
        • Measured and reasoned Feedback is essential to measuring success, especially during these feedback phases
      • How close do you think you are to meeting those objectives at a design level?
        • Lots of excellent feedback and has “already” paid it’s way. Feedback has already identified gaps and improvements are being incorporated based on player feedback. So great progress has been made, and it’s probably got another couple of weeks.
    • Realising no ETA etc, will these changes come all at once or be phased over the beyond updates? E.g at frontier expo the ATR was mentioned for Q1
      • Likely to be a big bang launch in Q1. No ETA etc etc though
      • ATR fighters.
        • Lots of bravado re:ATR… Not going to be true for everyone. Superpowered but not insta-kill. They can bend the rules, not break them.
        • Imagine a fully engineered ship That’s the base level. For example, A cascade or drag muntion style beam laser..
        • The higher the notoriety the more intense the ATR response. They will aim to take out an individual and will be able to defend themselves
        • ATR may be able to be killed, but will keep coming and coming. The question it will ask the player is “How long do you want to stay around until you die”
        • Ways in which ATR can chase you across systems in the same faction are being investigated.
    • Impact on Community Questions
      • Do you think certain ways players play the game has historically been harmful to both the community and the number of players who now play or want to buy the game. If so, specifically, how will these changes improve this?
        • It’s a conundrum. Historically and intentionally the game has been left open to player interpretation and try to avoid judgement, That’s not to say there are no consequences and the game will respond to that
        • There is also a covenant between player and developer where the player has to abide by the rules. And we accept it’s not the full picture, but it should be an improvement from where we are now.
        • It’s a balance between locking down the game so it’s no fun or opening it too much.
      • Credit fines.
        • Not a huge amount of criminal players with huge amount of money, but data says being attacked and killed in open is rarer than the perception.
        • Previously the fines have been avoided, with the new system the impact will be higher because they are a lot harder to avoid and so eventually will have an effect.
        • Additional fines will increase the rebuy penalty so it all adds up. Other systems such as karma will also affect things
        • Player choice, open, Private Group or solo are all equally valid.
      • Can you explain how the new bounty hunting mechanic could work. What’s to stop friends kill trading or even selling their bounty for real money outside of game if the values become significant?
        • The bounty that is claimed and the rebuy bounty are different things. So while bounty hunting will be made more lucrative, it will be balanced to avoid this.
        • The concept of reducing a victim’s rebuy and increasing the attackers is at the moment fairly compelling as it increases the sense of justice.
      • Will any fines or bounties be commander based, rather than ship based(e.g interstellar bounties)
        • It’s an interesting debate. But there proba”thye devprebly wouldn’t be. One of the reasons why it’s on a ship is because it opens the player up to other professions, whilst still adding a penalty
        • interstellar bounties will be pretty horrifying, so probably no need for pilots federation bounties. But balancing will be needed.
      • The current system differentiates between player murders and NPC murders. The proposed system seems to dilute this distinction, why the change?
        • It’s felt that the consequences for ship destruction should be the same. It’s nicer it’s simpler whilst still recognising there needs to be a sense of justice for the player.
        • The hope is this system will reduce the instances of combat logging
    • Impact on Consensual PvP, player events, and criminality as a profession etc
      • Any chance of having CQC style arenas/pvp centric mega-ships etc  in anarchy systems to assist in consensual PvP. I.e give consensual PvP outside of CQC some love?
        • Should be possible using existing assets although some assets are already in place already. So could be looked at, where players make their own rules .
      • Piracy and PvP in general have been mentioned as needing improvement. Is smuggling on the list also?
        • Smuggling is a core role in the game, but is being reviewed as part of beyond. They would like to be improved in two ways. The black market and mechanical changes to improve gameplay.
        • Other factors are involved in how successful your smuggling is such as your in system rep and how ‘prestigious” your ship is
      • How will player run events, such a demolition derbies be affected by these changes(frequent ramming, getting the station annoyed on purpose just for funsies. etc)
        • It’s fun seeing the crazy events players come up with. Report crimes off and anarchy systems will still work and should not be much difference. But will need to be looked at in case by case basis.
        • One can imagine how crimes are not affected in wings, could also apply in squadrons….
    • Possible exploits, loopholes etc questions
      • How are you going to prevent mischievous players “getting in the way of other ships’ weapons in order to get the other a bounty etc?
        • While the system is harsher. The friendly fire threshold will be increased, as as a new reckless weapons offense which will impose a fine, not a bounty.
      • Is there a potential issue in having a nice collection of freshly clean(and freshly poorer) players in a detention centre that are just ripe to being killed again and again in a place where other ‘naughty’ players have been sent?
        • Fastest possible ATR response will be present, may be worthwhile having instant attack function while being in your own instance until you jump away. In other words security in the detention system will be tight.
      • What would happen if you filled a detention ship up to the max number of ships you can store there(e.g filled it with sidewinders)
        • It’s an interesting idea. In theory there are several solutions from upping the limit, forced moving of ships all the way to giving the player a choice of what ship they want to lose to make room
      • For the first time perhaps(outside of the BGS). The size of my credit balance and rate in which I can earn credits can now affect others players. Is this a worry?
        • It’s an interesting question, that is quite a moral conundrum, but in general punishments based on assets
    • Power Play
      • Please could you explain again the power play changes, they seemed more complex than those currently in place.
    • Lightning Round
      • Accidentally shooting before a scan ends no hull damage. I.E. Shield Dmg Only. – Fine
      • Accidentally shooting before a scan ends with hull damage -Fine
      • Accidentally ramming a ship without destroying it – fine maybe bounty
      • Shooting a clean/non scanned ship with and inflicting hull damage – bounty
      • Killing skimmers – fine… bounty.. fine
      • Shooting people in an SRV – all of the above 😉
      • Smuggling illegal goods -fine
      • Loitering or docking without permission – All of the above 😉
      • Killing a clean NPC as part of a mission -Bounty
      • Carrying wanted passenger – Bounty
      • Killing clean player not PP aligned – Jail
      • Killing multiple clean players not PP  aligned – All of the above 😉
      • Killing the same player repeatedly within a defined time period – All of the above 😉

Remote Outpost Games Episode 5 – Peter McLaren (Massive Damage)

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Remote Outpost Games is a podcast celebrating the best video games in history, stranding industry figures on a remote getaway and asking them to justify which 5 games they would take with them to await rescue.

In this episode, hosts Christopher Jarvis and John Stabler talk to Peter McLaren, Creative Director of Massive Damage, to talk through his favourite games as well as own game: Halcyon 6. H6 was funded through Kickstarter and has recently had a massive update in the new “Lightspeed Edition.” Listen now and enjoy!

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Lave Radio EGX 2017 Friday, Saturday & Sunday


Lave Radio EGX 2017 Friday, Saturday & Sunday

Aired 24 Sep 2017
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On Friday I went to a Panel on the Past, Present and Future of XCOM with Julian Gollop, the original creator of X-COM: UFO Defense , and Jake Solomon, creative director of the current XCOM. At the panel I bumped into Cmdr Wishblend and spoke to her about the highlight’s of her day.

On Saturday and Sunday I spoke to a lot of the Smaller Developers including a lot of Masters students from the NFTS. These students have had roughtly 5 months to develop and build their ideas before their presentations at EGX, although they have until Chrismas to finish their project

Not every project has a website up and running for their work, especially those of the National Film and Television School, but where websites are available I’ll like them in the show notes.

Please remember that all of the audio was recorded live at the convention in a noisy environment, so I’ll apologise in advance for any audio issues.

Developer Sessions

Games

I had the chance to explore so many great games at EGX this year. Falling Sky, even though it’s a student project has a really great feel to it and I’m really interested in where Jonathan Nielssen takes it. I absolutely adored Jo Paterson’s music in May. Sunless Skies, 2000 to 1 and The Town Of Light I found myself getting immediately immersed in and I could have so easily played them for hours, which of course you can’t have at a convention, but I’ll definately be picking these up and playing some more of them when I have some free time!

Lave Radio EGX 2017 Thursday


Lave Radio EGX 2017 Thursday

Aired 21 Sep 2017
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Today I’ve been working, so I only had an hour in the evening to pop into EGX, however whilst I was there, I was lucky to have a chat with Chris who is working on Lightseekers

Author Interview with Elite: Premonition Author – Drew Wagar

With the Release of the new Elite: Dangerous novel Premonition, Chief Archivist Colin ‘PhoenixDfire’ Ford has a chat with Author Drew Wagar about how difficult it was to write, ‘THAT’ event and it’s aftermath and plans for the future.

Aired 01 July 2017
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Crew Members
Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire
Imperial Senator : Drew Wagar

Dataslate Episode 15: Special Guest – Darren Grey.

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After a long absence, just in time for Lavecon 2017, Dataslate, the podcast on books and writing, returns!

Book news from  Allen Stroud with special guest, Darren Grey who discusses the subject of writing for games, and introduces us to his new project, Jupiter Hell.

 

 

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Dataslate Returns! Episode 14: Special Guest – Anna Smith-Spark.

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After a long absence, just in time for Lavecon 2017, Dataslate, the podcast on books and writing, returns!

Book news and reviews from  Allen Stroud with special guest, Anna Smith-Spark who will be at Lavecon reading from her debut novel, Court of the Broken Knives published by Harper Voyager.

 

 

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Salomé Aftermath Special

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On Monday the intreped Commander Fozza invited Admiral of the Fleet, Commander Paroxsym from the Premonition Allied Coordination, along with Commanders Eisen and Baroness Galaxy to join him, Ben and Colin on the Orange Sidewinder to discus Saturday’s in game event. The Chase, the Kill, the Intrigue and the Politics along with the hope for us all…

Aired 1 May 2017
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Crew Members

Head of health and safety : Ben Moss-Woodward – Cmdr Eid LeWeise
2nd Technician : Chris Forrester – Cmdr Fozza
Chief Archivist : Colin Ford – Cmdr phoenix_dfire

Special Guests
Fleet Admiral : Paroxsym from Premonition Allied Coordination
Raxxla’s Child : Eisen
Raxxla’s Shield : Baroness Galaxy

Show Notes

  • Harry Potter killed Salomé
    • ‘She was confirmed killed at 20:49 gametime on 29th April, 3303, succumbing to hostile fire from Commander Harry Potter.’
  • Drew’s aftermath
  • Quote from Children of Raxxla
    • It seems the fake news and rumors run amok before, during and after the event. Let me try to clear this up a bit. Believe it, or leave it.

      The people fighting for Salomé did not consist of a single group. PAC might have been the public face of it, but they were not directly responsible for Salomé’s flight. That was in the hands of CoR and a few of our trusted allies. PAC was tasked to organise defense fleets for Raan and Tsu and somewhat help with Salomé too independently from this more private defense force. PAC may or may not have considered SDC an ally, but they were certainly not considered an ally by Salomé’s personal guards.

      SDC was never tasked in defending Salomé, nor were they allowed to get close to her. Harry Potter and other Commanders who interdicted Salomé simply played the game well, got lucky with instancing and did their part.

      Salomé was going to give a speech at the end of the event if she survived, but as far as we know, the listening posts at Teorge are the main answers that needed to be broadcasted.

      I think it’s important to understand that there is no ‘losing’ situation for this event. Whether Salomé delivered her speech or not is not relevant to the grand scheme of things. What matters is whether we have played out an interesting narrative using in-game means. With the current results, there may not be a speech, but there may be a funeral. The story still moves forward, just in a different direction.
  • Media Coverage
  • Issues
    • PAC’s behaviour in the run up to the event was horrendous, Complaint’s of (Irony Alert) PVP Eliteism, denying people access to the event, Kill on sight order (even on their own side, who didn’t follow the rules). Drew on a couple of occasions, asked for PAC to be more inclsive which the response was ‘Don’t go running to Drew, if you don’t like our Rules’.
    • Colin was a victim to those rules, even though the event hadn’t started. In addition, Innocent cmdrs who had nothing to do with the event were targeted (According to reddit). Group I was associated with [Forge] did a sterling job.
    • SDC had spies
    • Why did the SDC get invited?
    • Why did Salome have Harry Potter (etc?) on her friends list? Was it to help with instancing and she was just accepting all?
  • In game aftermath
  • Shoutouts

Remote Outpost Games Episode 2 – James Buckle (Engage Pixel)

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Remote Outpost Games is a podcast celebrating the best video games in history, stranding industry figures on a remote getaway and asking them to justify which 5 games they would take with them to await rescue.

In this episode, hosts John Stabler and Christopher Jarvis talk to Industry Veteran and Indie Newcomer James Buckle of Engage Pixel about his latest game – Captain Kaon – and his decade-long history working on the Total War series.

Captain Kaon is a new gravity shooter inspired by Thrust and created in a homage style to the Amiga era. As part of this show we have THREE Steam keys to give away for Captain Kaon, so listen in for the rules and send us your entries!

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Obsidian Ant Interviews the Creators of Elite Dangerous RPG – Spider Mind Games


Elite Dangerous RPG is a traditional pen and paper roleplay game based upon the video game, currently in its Kickstart Campaign phase. In this show Obsidian Ant Interviews the creators behind the game, and pose them questions sent in by the community.

Aired 8 February 2016
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