Home Posts tagged "Lave Radio Episode" (Page 10)

Tag: Lave Radio Episode

Lave Radio Episode 103

New LR iTunes Cover

 

Allen Stroud conjures up a Re-animation spell to revive the DDF, but is it too late for this decrepit zombie to be of any use?

Aired 22nd March 2016
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Crew Members

Station Commander (Presenter): Allen Stroud : Cmdr Helaban Kel
Head of Health and safety : Ben Moss Woodwood : Cmdr EidLeWeiss
Head of station Archives : Colin Ford : Cmdr PhoniexDFire
Chief Barsteward : Grant Woolcott : Cmdr Psykokow

Show Notes:

Development News

  • Planet Coaster Alpha launches today – Released today
    • Advertise Lave Radio special stream for PC? – Alt Lave New Ad Hoc Show from the crew of the Orange Sidewinder that will focus on Movies, Video Games, Tv Shows, and Fiction. Indeed anything really that members of the crew feel is worthy of discussion outside the ED Universe. The first of these shows will focus around Planet Coast from Frontier Developments.

Newsletter 116

  • Community Goals will be available on the galaxy map.
  • Tracks on planets – Are they limited to your client, instance or are they permanent (probably not). How long until someone does a big tyre track penis and shares it on facebook? Grant Woolcott I am looking at you after last night!!!
  • New Utility slot type in Peek of the week?!
  • The Join the Elite Stream
    • Where Ed and Michael Brookes took people through how to do exploring, the necessary and helpful equipment required with hints and tips on how to explore showing there is more to exploring than HSJ (Honk, Scoop and Jump).
    • This thursdays’ stream is all about trading tips.
  • In game news
    • Poor  Ishmael Palin (the prominent Barnicle expert) so far has been attacked by pirates, kidnapped and finally rescued. However his bad luck has continued as he’s now contracted the  Cerberus Plague. You’d think someone has it in for him, he’s having so much bad luck. 😉
    • The campaign from the Canonn Interstellar Research Group to establish a new research outpost in the Col 285 Sector IX-T d3-43 system has been successful. A new outpost will be constructed ‘soon’ which will help with more research into the UA.
    • A rogue Farragut Battle Cruiser somewhere? There were reports last week of a Federal Battle Cruiser with Pirate markings in the LHS 3447.
    • Speaking of Farragut Battle Cruisers, the construction of the Latest Cruiser in the Beti Hydri system has the Empire worried. If more cruisers are constructed, sources close to Admiral Denton Patreus say that the empire might have to respond in kind.
    • In response to the New Battle Cruiser and rhetoric coming from the Empire; the Alliance has held a diplomatic summit at the Alliance Capital looking at possible responses.

Main Discussion – DDF Lazerus

  • Default In-game choices to be made by the DDF
  • “It’s been a long time, but we are finally able to move towards some of the things we discussed during the Kickstarter with respect to the DDF and the ability of members to decide together on significant actions within the game. There are some big events coming to the game later this year (in relation to an alien species – trying to minimise spoilers here!), and members will decide where these events first take place, and how the process moves on down the line. This will be by voting on the DDF forum with a choice of possible locations. As the events unfold, there will be further such choices going forwards.”

Community Corner

  • Allen’s Stroud AMA. –  A lot of questions about a possible sequel to Lave Revolution.
  • Mobius AMA – Erm… started off ok but then became a slagging match between people of the opinion that solo or private groups ruin community goals, powerplay etc and those that don’t.
  • Elite Racers who have their subreddit if you want to get along
    • Really impressed with the Imperial couriers’ canyon run. (Beggers Canyon anyone). Someone will have to do on in the fastest ship (Isn’t that a viper?) and see what’s that like.

Lave Radio Episode 102

Lego SRVThe show dives into virtual reality and the health and safety of LOOOOOOOOOONGGGG streams

Aired 15th March 2016
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Crew Members

Head of Entertainments : Chris Jarvis : Cmdr thane
Head of Health and safety : Ben Moss Woodwood : Cmdr EidLeWeiss
Head of station Archives : Colin Ford : Cmdr PhoniexDFire
VR Expert and all round ‘nice guy’ : Cmdr Snuffler

Show Notes:

  • Development News
    • Join the Elite: Everything You Need to Know About Community Goals with Steve Kirby
    • Zac — Support update – Reiteration of player harassment rules
    • Planet Coaster has a date of Tuesday 22nd March for Alpha backers
    • PowerPlay : Sandro on Collusion Piracy and More
      • Doesn’t Like it BUT Recognises it’s a useful tool
      • Wants to introduce effects to degrade Collusion Piracy (current options)
        • Creating a voting system to allow Commanders, by the act of majority will, to withdraw from poor control systems, ensuring mechanisms are in place to prevent profitable systems from being voted out.
        • Utilising an UP / DOWN vote feature, which would exist primarily to be a channel of communication within the game for pledged Commanders) to also provide veto functionality at the preparation stage, allowing, by the act of majority will, poor control system candidates from being purchased as expansion targets.
        • Introducing a combo mechanism for fortification allotments, limiting the purchase of rushed allotments based on successful deliveries – the more you deliver the more you can pay to rush – whilst adding temporary fortification disbarring for losing fortification commodities.
    • Power Play : Sandro on ‘open bonus’
      • Sandro – “And since I’m in the mood for pulling hand grenades , here’s another thing to chew on: I’m currently rather taken by the concept of a success multiplier for Commanders in Open Play. this modifier would not improve personal gains from power play activities, but it would magnify the effectiveness of a power’s actions (expand, oppose, fortify, undermine). And the effect would probably be significant.
      • Power Play by design encourages player interaction and FD want to encourage that. “Powerplay will always be at its best when opposing Commanders interact directly”
  • Newsletter 115
  • Main Discussion
    • VR News 
    • Ian Honcharenko — “Question for the team: With the rise in popularity of 24hr charity streams and the advertising in the newsletter last week of a race requiring approximately 38 hours commuted flight time in a 2 day period, I put the question to you should frontier be promoting such events despite the inherent health risks and chance of negative press (such as the numerous game addiction articles in both professional medical journals and less professional tabloid newspapers).I’d just add that last year’s Voyager winner did it in 40 hours with a 2 hr nap.”
      • From the newsletter— Probably one of the craziest endurance challenges in the galaxy, the 2nd Annual Voyager Challenge kicks off on March 24, 2016. Head over to the original forum post to find out how you can get involved.

        Can you make 60,000 light years in under 40 hours? According to event organisers, last year’s record was an incredible 38 hours, 44 minutes!

        It’ll take some doing, but we know that there must be some Commanders out there with the tenacity to get this done!

        Remember, fly safe Commanders! Make sure you take regular breaks, look after yourselves and be sensible with any long play sessions.
      • Also worth working in the Hutton Orbital Gimp run with the race to Sag A
      • Also arguably FD’s original race to Elite and what the guy to get the Triple did to win that
      • 24 hour streams – a good/bad thing to encourage?
  • Community Corner
  • Questions
    • MonkeyBones asks – Which is a more valuable asset, an A5+ fuel scoop or a REALLY BIG GAS TANK? (For the record, after a year or so with a RBGT I have finally switched to a B6 Fuel Scoop. It is SO fast, but it still makes me nervous that I will get stuck out of fuel in a brown dwarf desert.) Shameless Plug for the REALLY BIG GAS TANK Methinks
    • CMDR Smugallo – Id love to hear the cast each try an impression of someone not a discussion i know hahaj.
      • Ben failed and everyone else wimped out. 🙂

Lave Radio Episode 98

elite arena

 

The Speculation Engine is in full gear, what do we think we will see in 2.4?

Aired 16th February 2016
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Show Notes:

    • Introductions Fozza / Jarvis hit Frontier Towers
    • Development News
      • Newsletter #111
      • Elite Horizons 2.0.0.6 released today – Lot of CQC fixes, a couple of smaller fixes to the main game – https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=232819
        • Although this item does stand out –  i Sola Prospect in the Brestla star system now always stocks all ships and modules
        • Sadly does not fix forming Squads for CQC – it’s still a large unsorted list!

 

  • CQC Mayhem will run for four weeks, beginning on Tuesday February 16 and ending on Tuesday March 15 . Take part in intense PVP action in custom-built arenas set within the Elite Dangerous galaxy. Equip a unique loadout on your craft and earn XP to unlock new weapons, modules and abilities. Simply select Start and then CQC from the main menu in Elite Dangerous or Elite Dangerous: Horizons to get started.

 

Quick Overview

Fly agile fighters and go head-to-head against the galaxy’s greatest pilots in PVP dogfights – easy to pick up controls reward your skills with more to master for the ultimate combat edge. Choose your ship, customise your loadout and prepare for instant Arena-based action to earn the right to be called Elite.

 

Please note: All customers who buy Elite Dangerous: Arena from the Frontier Store will receive a discount equal to their original purchase price, when upgrading to either Elite Dangerous or the Elite Dangerous: Deluxe Edition.

 

    • David Braben talks to PC Gamer about Elite : Arena
      • http://www.pcgamer.com/david-braben-on-arena-and-the-future-of-elite-dangerous/
  • Dev Update Michael Brookes – Leading on from last week’s “Personalisation” with this week’s “Progression” –
    • 5 Levels of rep with minor faction Hated, Disliked, Neutral, Liked, Allied with a new one being added between Neutral and Liked
    • Rewarded with in game rewards but also within the narrative, Maybe your contact saying well done your rep has increased with us.
    • Mission givers change as you progress up or down the ranks.
    • Mission givers express what affects the success or failure of that mission has on their minor faction.
    • Last week I mentioned that we had some more huge weapons coming, but without providing any details, so we have huge beam and pulse laser and multi-cannons being added. There will also be a new large multi-cannon.
    • Topic of the week – Wild Speculation – What is 2.4 Update ?
      • Jason Carthes (facebook) this is what 2.4 gonna be about (walking fpv)  but just in our ships as a teaser for the new season 3.0. My guess
      • Invasion?

 

  • Community Corner
    • OOgie Boogie PvP League Advert – In Episode 98 Folder
    • Emperors Disgrace? Chased out of home system, challenged with 1 month to regain control.
      • https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/45x2nt/triple_elite_group_emperors_grace_no_longer/
        • Have contact EG for a reaction.
        • EG – Triple Elite Status Player Group (means they have the ear of the devs)
        • Home system Novas flipped by Diamond Frogs
        • Large population therefore took a month to flip
        • one or two wings of three doing activity daily for a month to flip, no response at any point from EG
        • Kermit “Big Frog” Laphroaig reporting on Reddit gives EG a month unhindered access to reset the system because EG and the Frogs go way back.
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE7WPstMzsM – Proper gravity exists. An orbit of Enceladus with engines off. (Thanks for Kerash for that one)
    • Latest Update on the RPG and the Tabletop game – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On_wmRhGCR0

Lave Radio – The Conclave – Episode 9

Conclave Cover
Join Fozza as he discusses the hits and misses of Elite: Horizons and the season 2 of updates.
Cmdr Snuffler, Cmdr Vingtetun, Goose4192, Nexus Reject & Colin Ford

Aired 2nd February 2016
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Please feel free to send in your feedback and thoughts on this episode, info@laveradio.com

Thanks for tuning in.

Lave Radio Episode 96


A technically flawless episode with no technical problems whatsover, just awesome discussion on the dev news and updates about Elite :Dangerous

Aired 26th January 2016
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Show Notes:

Lave Radio Episode 95

barnacles
Is it a sandworm beak? A giant Clam or something more scary? A thargoid baby maker? We turn to Canonn Interstellar Research Group for some answers.
Aired 19th January 2016
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Show Notes:

  • Community Corner
      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YLdMWsxbRk – Running the Orbis!
      • Update on the Pioneer Expedition?
      • Mobius Group moves past 18,000 members.
      • Galnet News returns to You Tube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDKH-bM2t-rGBkyjHcMU5Ew

Lave Radio Episode 94

distant worldsWe dive off the deepend this week as we try to figure out what the BGS is actually doing and if Horizons is actually worth it.
Aired 12th January 2016
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Show Notes:

  • Main Discussion
    • Background Sim Discussion
    • Is Elite Dangerous Hozizons Worth it?
      • The general response to Horizons has been mixed at best with a lot of negative press and reviews. What needs to done to change this perception?
        “In summary; Horizons adds no meaningful content to the game, built on the dubious and hollow promise that it’ll be worth the $60 by December 2016. Frontier is financially incentivized not to deliver, and cannot be held accountable until the next paid expansion cycle, when the game will definitely perish forever. Christ, I hope I’m wrong. I so, so want to be wrong.It breaks my heart, but you should pass on this. Instead, consider purchasing the base game for the world’s best deep-space exploration simulator experience, priced at a very reasonable $30.” http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197979999790/recommended/419270/)
      • Elite: Dangerous – Lack of Content & Gameplay? What Really is the thing Horizons Needs? (Video by Obsidian Ant)

Lave Radio Episode 92

The Christmas special became a bit of a report card for the last year of Elite, some of the program was affected due to some technical issues.. so we appologise if your enjoyment of the podcast is adversly affected. Aired 22nd December 2015 Audio versions Download the episode directly from…

Continue reading

Lave Radio Episode 91

Horizons Splash ScreenThe Horizon has landed, and we cover the weekly news, and discuss our review of season 1 of Elite: Dangerous.

Aired 15th December 2015
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Show Notes:

  • Development News
    • ED:H “Early Access” on the 15th December
      • Hi Everyone,
        Beta is going very well – the team have been working hard and have made great progress. Thanks to all those that have been helping us – a great many improvements have been included already, with another update (Beta 5) expected tomorrow, with more tweaks and changes.
        We have worked very hard to ensure forward & backward compatibility so that all players of both seasons can play in the same galaxy together.
        After every Elite Dangerous release we have taken care to listen and reacted to all feedback, and Elite Dangerous: Horizons will follow exactly the same process. Included with Horizons will be multiple expansions of which Planetary Landings will be the first.
        All going well, we plan to launch Horizons with Planetary Landings on Tuesday (15th December – you heard it here first!). This will initially be termed an ‘Early Access’ release to highlight our normal process to our broad audience, some of whom have been with us since the start, but many have joined our community very recently.
    • And Trailer for the Expansion and this is the official one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWIJ-H-WxI Also what is this??? (1:02)
    • Beta 5 Patch Notes
    • Beta 6 Patch Notes
    • Horizons 2.0 & Ships 1.5 Patch Notes
    • ED Blind Charity Auction for Special Effect
      • Auction Ends 17th December at 09:00 GMT
      • Name your own station
        An extremely exclusive item. Previously only available as a high-level Kickstarter reward, this item can now be bought in this charity auction. Please note: Frontier will decide on the station location and reserve the right to edit, adjust and veto names at their discretion.
      • Your Personal Unique Paint Job
        This prize is an exclusive one of a kind paint job only for you. You’ll get access to our designer, Tjaart, who will help develop the paint job and add it your account.
      • Every paint job in the Frontier Store
        This prize is for one of every single paint job, including paint packs, in the Frontier Store. This includes all Paint Jobs currently available but won’t include future paint jobs released.
      • Lifetime expansion pass
        Currently not available to purchase this item gives you every single expansion in Elite Dangerous starting with Horizons. It also includes access to every beta update that comes to Elite Dangerous…. forever.
      • Limited Edition Artwork
        Only roughly 100 of these were ever produced. We have one available in the closed auction and what’s more, ours will be signed by the artists. Please note that this does not come with a frame and will likely require a custom frame to fit.
      • VIP Community Golden Tickets (Pair)
        The Community Golden Tickets will grant you access to any and every community event for Elite Dangerous. This includes all live event meet ups, the CQC live final, front of queue for all public events and any other unannounced events happening in the future . What’s more it also includes standard admission into Lavecon and Fantasticon! Please note that only admission is granted to the events. Accommodation and expenses are not covered.
    • Ed’s 24 Hour Live Stream for Special Effect
    • Michael Brookes: “The military ranks is something we want to revisit at a later stage. I’d like to see them become more like a career.”
    • DBOBE Reddit AMA Summary https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/3wxv2y/summary_of_the_livestream_qa_reddit/
    • Adam on Multicrew (as part of Ed’s live stream)
      • 1 person / ships seat I.E. Cobra up to 2 ppl
      • can hot swap roles
      • general interface is neural link (like the turret)
      • Helm
      • Fire Control (turret)
      • Tactical (Countermeasures, Shields, Sensors)
      • Engineering (power mgmt, repairs etc)
      • Pilot can give permissions
      • Deploy into SRV
      • Deploy into Fighter
      • No AI Crew yet
    • Chris Gregory and Ed
      • slips and Christmassy Ship Skins coming
      • SRV Skins maybe coming (maybe colour schemes since there’s not so much ‘hull’
    • Mike Evans and Ed Ship Launched Fighters
      • Gonna be able to have up to 4 Fighters ACTIVE at a time (in your ship etc)
      • Design Challenge – WHY would u go in to a fighter?
        • Probably be considered disposable
        • Glass Cannons
        • AI Controlled Fighter
        • Not all ships will be able to have them, maybe a Python Can’t but a T9 can
        • Are we neural linking or physically moving into the fighter? Still in debate but Mike is leaning towards Neural link since their considered disposable
        • Mark Allen is Mike’s favourite programmer 🙂
      • Ships of 1.5
        • Why is the cutter so bad? — Well that’s your opinion… No Ship can be the be all and end all though
        • Did they update the Cobra Mk 4 due to popular opinion? NO the Mk 4 has so much more going for it with it’s better power / weapons etc that boosting it’s speed and maneuverability would make it OP
        • Cutter maneuverability it’s very fast for its size but that speed comes at a cost (Best speed of 232 so it’s much faster than Conda and Corvette) It’s a very iterative design.
        • Doesn’t like his opinions on knee jerk reactions
        • Mike’s original favourite ship was the Eagle and likes the Viper Mk4. He likes the Corvette out of the bigger ships. He’s not a fan of the Empire’s curves more a Federal Man 😀
      • Sandy and Ed – Loot and Crafting
        • Personalise and Customise their ships. Makes them ‘Cooler’
        • Visit the ‘custom Mechanic’ (currently) to ‘pimp your ship’
          • Can upgrade Modules
          • He requests materials and resources
          • Upgrade FSD, Weapons, Shields
          • There’s a range of module upgrades
          • Could be some benefits – but ALSO a downside too
          • Some ‘awesome new effects’
          • Difficult to balance
          • More materials coming
        • The are considering ‘station based storage – but no time soon and no promises!
  • Newsletter 103
  • Main Discussion
  • Community Corner
  • Questions
  • Shoutouts
    • In Game Cmdrs
      • Cmdr Highbyte
      • Cmdr We Ye
      • Cmdr Archimbaust
      • Cmdr E Pilot 007
      • Cmdr Levofski
      • Cmdr Nyres
      • Cmdr Slapshot
      • Cmdr Steven McCreery
      • Cmdr Paine
      • Cmdr Mindwipe
    • IRC Chat
    • Twitch Chat

 

That’s it for another episode of Lave Radio. If you would like to get in touch with the show then you can email info@laveradio.com, facebook/laveradio, @laveradio on twitter, you can join the skype chat channel by adding Fozza101 to your skype contacts. Or you can join our TeamSpeak server where commanders come to hang out an chat: laveradio.teamspeak3.com  Lave Radio is recorded live on a Tuesday evening at 20:30 and streamed out on https://laveradio.com/live/

Thanks to [whoever], thanks to those commanders that have joined us outside Lave Station.
Until next time fly safe, and if you can’t do that…fly dangerous!

Lave Radio Episode 90

Mindwipe Shares his opinion with Cmdr Eid LeWeiseWe do the weekly round up and then have a chat with ingame commanders to find our their first impressions of the amazing beta Elite: Horizons.

Aired 8th December 2015
Audio versions


Download the episode directly from here.

Show Notes:

  • Development News
    • DEV UPDATE (03/12/2015)
    • Beta 2 Patch Notes
    • Beta 3 Patch Notes
    • Beta 4 Patch Notes
    • Newsletter 102
    • Elite Encounters announcement – Selezen taking a break for December to help him recover from his health issues and relax. Our thoughts (well mine :)) go with him and we understand exactly where he’s coming from
    • A Prospectors Guide to the Galaxy (collating data on prospecting in Horizons)
    • Planetary POIs only visible from SRV
      • Basically I get a POI (the blue blob on my ground scanner) when flying over. We land and get into our SRV and investigate the POI.
      • The issue is that we can be landed, facing a broken type 9 and NOT SEE IT when in the ship’s cockpit.
    • Minimum Spec for VR:
    • Sandy’s Guide to ED Horizons
    • Christmas ED Events
      • 17 December The Billionaire’s treasure hunt
      • 21 December 24 hour Christmas Charity Livestream & Blind auction
      • 22 December A time for giving
      • Other special events – keep an eye on social media…
    • ED Horizons Beta Only CG
      • Calling all beta pilots! To celebrate the launch of the Horizons beta we put a special Community Goal live earlier today. Read on to find out how you can get involved and win a paint job of your choice.

        Follow clues to help track down and recover a stolen data core:

        “LHS 3262 Solutions has reported the theft of a valuable experimental data core. The core, which has been in development for some time, has been described as being “of great importance” to LHS 3262 Solutions, and a generous reward has been offered for its safe return. The precise location of the thieves is not known and Security services in the LHS 3262 system, where LHS 3262 Solutions is based, have been unable to track the thieves, but they have determined that the criminals recently visited three systems: Eleu, Pijan and Baris.

        LHS 3262 Solutions has stressed that the core must be recovered soon, before it degrades and becomes unusable and are offering a rich reward for the first pilot to return the item to their facility at Whitworth Park on Akan.”

        As an additional reward the pilot that returns with the data core will also be awarded a special code to obtain a new ship paintjob of their choice.

        Find the Stolen Data Core
        LHS 3262, Whiworth Park on Akan – search for clues to recover the stolen data core.

        Happy Hunting Commanders!

        As an additional reward the pilot that returns with the data core will also be awarded a special code to obtain a new ship paint job of their choice.
    • CQC ‘Danger Zone Stream’ with Ed and CJ (QA Platform lead for XB1 testing) (1 hr stream)
      • Partnered with Saitek, YouTube Gaming and Elgato Gaming
    • Lave Exploration Data CG
      In other news Exploration vessels are being encouraged by the Explorer’s Association to gather valuable information on previously uncharted star systems. The request has been submitted on behalf of a number of secondary organisations, which plan to use the data to improve their planetary databases. A spokesperson for the association released a brief statement:

      “There is always a demand for fresh data, not only within the commercial sector but also among various geopolitical entities. On this occasion, the request has been issued on behalf of several private concerns in need of accurate, up-to-date information. Any pilots who contribute to this initiative will be generously rewarded.”

      Appeal for Exploration Data:
      Lave System, Lave Station – Deliver Exploration Data to Lave Station to help improve planetary databases.
    • Gutamaya Shipyards Announces the Imperial Fighter
      • “The Imperial Fighter is due to be released for use in the CQC Championships in December, and will go on general sale in early 3302.”
    • This year we’ve got a very special Community Goal just for the Christmas period.

      Every Commander in the galaxy will be able to work together to help bring a gift to thousands of players. As well as your usual credits, a successful CG will also unlock a new ship for new and inexperienced players (players with between 3 and 10 hours of game play). The type of ship that is granted will depend on the tier achieved.
    • On December 21 at 12:00 GMT Community Manager Ed Lewis will be holding a stream like no other. He will be live and chatting with the Elite Dangerous community for 24 consecutive hours.

      We’ve got a whole load of guests joining Ed from Frontier Developments and the community and they will be hosting events, shows, gifts giveaways and an incredible prize draw, all in aid of SpecialEffect.

      We will have more details in the coming week, but be sure to keep the day free!

      There will also be a blind auction which will close on the 16th of December. More news to follow soon.
    • The biggest Easter egg hunt by the Billionaire yet.
  • Main Discussion
    •  Discussion with Cmdrs on Teamspeak about their opinions on ED:H
  • Community Corner
  • Warm and fuzzy story “I really Regret Buying Elite Dangerous“
  • David Talks about making VR games
  • The Hutton Truckers successfully take Alpha Centauri into expansion, and expand into another blooming outpost system!!!!!!  Coises (Ask Grant.. I think I’ll have the info)  WISE 0855-0714