Yes, racing “exists” in Elite and yes it’s awesome — but accessible it is not.
This project aims to provide a ground-up reimplementation of a similar-enough flight model to provide a training ground and common set of tools to track leaderboards, ghosts and general tom-foolery. Feedback is extremely welcome!
Interested in getting involved with the dev process? Come join the discord and yell at me about how wrong I am discuss where we should take this!
You can filter missions by material or credits, etc.
From Dextio on the forums
Greetings Lave Radio!
I’m a big fan of yours, and listen to your content regularly. Normally, I don’t reach out like this, but recently the CM team has increased their communication/presence in the forums and people are taking advantage of them in a big way (see the patch notes for update 3).
I was wondering, if possible, can you bring up the topic of “Forum Etiquette” and how to handle this gift of increased communication that the CM team is providing?
I’d rather not lose it because we are taking advantage of them… Please… Thank you…
An open letter to the most excellent Lave Radio,
Before I start I hope the manner and sentiment in which this is was written comes across, it is always difficult to convey feelings and intention in the written word but my intent is one of good, one of genuine thanks for your time in producing the podcast that I can listen to for free, I want Elite to be a positive experience for all, it is certainly not meant as an attack or in any way meant to devalue anyone’s feelings or opinions.
I started playing Elite in the mid 80’s on my father’s BBC, I was immediately captivated by it, even then with the limited graphics and locations to visit.
I didn’t play again (due to life happening) until last year when I purchased an Xbox to play online shooters with furloughed work colleagues during the various lockdowns, I’m now just celebrating reaching my first Elite rank.
Elite is different from any other game I’ve ever played, I heard someone say it is “ a mile wide and an inch deep”, maybe that depends on your perspective…
As a new player (on console) I’m astounded by the negativity surrounding the Odyssey release and to be fair the game in general, it may have issues, Odyssey may have been released before ready, it may not tick all of the boxes but here’s my two penneth.
Elite is not an airport, departures do not need to be announced, if it’s not floating someone’s boat, go and play something else, content providers are (in my view) making the most of this situation, commenting on the games shortfalls and making a big deal of “I’m off to play Star Citizen or No Mans Sky” because they need to produce something and stay relevant, in actual fact Odyssey may have come at the right time to actually give them something new to talk about.
This will never meet every bodies expectation’s, that is impossible, if it doesn’t meet a particular players expectation, sorry about that but there are other games.
I play on console and to be honest I could moan that the P.C release has actually spoilt my hope for the future of the game without even playing it and how I feel excluded, the negativity surrounding the release of Odyssey has done nothing to make me look forward to the console release however I will pay my money and make my choice, good or bad, as I did when I bought No Mans Sky, which I didn’t particularly like so I don’t play it.
“It’s a beta”, so what? If someone wants to call it a beta (like most are anyway) call it a beta, if Frontier came out and verified that would it actually make anyone feel any better about playing the game, let’s face it all I hear is “we don’t trust anything Frontier says” so I’m not sure how calling it a beta makes any difference, unless there’s a vital part in the development process I don’t understand, not coming from a tech back ground myself.
Personally, if this had been the other way round and console players were given the chance to experience an earlier version of the game, I would’ve jumped at the chance and felt privileged to do so. Yes, it may be buggy, but another apology from a top-level representative will not change that, at all.
Has anyone ever thought what would happen if Fdev decided, “we can’t win, let’s take it on the chin and move onto something else”? There’s nothing stopping them doing that…
All of my points/views come from a place of genuine concern and wanting the best game experience as a relatively new player, apparently the game has a ”wonderful community”, well I’m not feeling that love at the moment, now maybe I’m looking in the wrong places (and to be fair, I’ve held off really connecting in game for various reasons) but it seems to me (as an outsider looking in, but very much wanting to take part) that the community is very little more than a hanging mob out for blood (sometimes on a personal level) which by the way is a pretty crappy way to act.
Lave radio was my first third party exposure to the massive beautiful Elite experience and as a new player this is the place I want to come to keep up to date, I want to know about community goals, fads, the latest trends in trading, mission, mining, cool things to see and to do (across all platforms).
I thoroughly value the Lave radio content and look forward to the show, but I have to admit, it has been a little difficult to listen to of late…
There is no other podcast for Elite quite like this and I would love it to focus a little more on the reason we all play it, I mean if people aren’t playing the game at the moment for whatever reason then I’m not sure why they are included in a podcast solely devoted to playing Elite (just saying).
I’m in no way suggesting that Lave radio become a glorified poster boy for the game, but maybe the balance needs to be redressed a little? Some ideas…
Newbs nuggets: It took me ages to find out that you can filter missions by material or credits, etc. a little titbits every week to help and encourage newer players, think of all of the experience you guys/gals have that you could share? I didn’t even know you could drive around a Horizons planet settlement when docked until last week!
Tourist Information: Awesome sites to see be it current or older ones, Guardian Structures, Wreckages or Capital ships, weird planets and stations, mega ships, dredgers and the like, etc.
Some sort of Insider trading? “Panite looks like it’s on the up at the moment”.
Critics corner, a specific place for a good old moan up (in a constructive manner) whilst also making suggestions and offering ideas and alternatives and not just Odyssey focused.
Things like this only need a minute or 2 but I could really help new players feel more included, after all I hear a lot of talk about player numbers which would indicate to me numbers are important to keep the game relevant, maybe new blood is vital?
I’m just spitballing here and you’d be quite within your rights to tell me to bog off “we like what we do thank you” however your podcast is far superior to any of the others I’ve heard and if I didn’t think it was worth my time to listen to it, I wouldn’t have written this letter.
“…our last best hope for news…located in neutral territory…a shining beacon in space…”
I believe this is still the mission, I will tune in next week, the week after, and the weeks after those.
Position Crew Member CMDR Name Staff Liaison Officer Clare Good Psykit Chief Archivist Colin Ford Phoenix_Dfire Guests Squee’r in Cheef Kerrash Kerrash Ground Pounder Paul Barratt Jthar Birrelle Guest Trucker Dave Pearson Vingtetun Tech Tech Monkey Norman MacArthur Ventura_ Download the episode directly from here. Development News – what have…
And some appreciations for the dev’s communication
That Bald Fella I’ve been impressed with the amount of communication I’ve seen on this thread today, so I fired up Odyssey for the first time in a few weeks to see how I got on and whether I might have anything useful to add. And he gave Sally a plate of Sausages! Who responded with “At this point I’m not afraid to say that I really do love sausages”
Aurora Destiny For sure. Thank you for the communication! I know its probably not easy… and the (almost emotional for me!) thanks for improving communication can never be understated given how little there was before this for almost everything.
Congratulations to the AXI – They say they’ve diagnosed the elusive heart bug which can cause issues fighting thargoids in a wing. “We have reason to believe that the elusive heart bug is triggered by Authority transfer of the interceptor NPC between commanders.” Info has been has been passed to frontier and in the meantime here are the appropriate work arounds :-
If fighting as a duo, use wingman nav-lock to drop (at the same time from Supercruise, NOT on a wingman’s beacon!), as that is less likely to result in authority switches (if it ever happens at all – we were able to avoid heart bugs entirely this way)
Instances with NPCs are also less likely to exhibit the heart bug e.g., AXCZs, as authority transfer of interceptors appears to be less likely
Instances where goids jump INTO the instance (vs CMDRs), such as Megaships, will generally not trigger authority transfers (unless a CMDR jumps out and back in, or de-syncs in some other way e.g., distance)
In general, avoid having another CMDR jump into an instance where a goid has already spawned, if possible and – if you must, move away from the drop point before the other CMDR drops (not confirmed if it helps … but the point is “try everything to avoid authority transfer”)
However, Since then, Fdev QA have said they can’t replicate the bug so if anyone wants to help out with Sending in Logs etc. If you encounter the error please attach logs to :-
No Plans for Crossplay – Although, thanks to a document leak from the ongoing Apple Vs Epic Court Case, we’ve found that Sony charges companies extra to use their Playstation Network, if their game is crossplay and has micro transactions. Elite would fall into that category and might make cross play financially untenable even though it’s technically feasible. We don’t know if Microsoft has the same policy with their xbox network.
Bookmark and POI improvements in the Galaxy Map on Thursday.
Star field brightness fixed
Delay to Update 5 – 1 week
Greater CM presence on the forum
Promise of Powerplay Answers Soon(™)!
Dev Streams by the end of the month.
In-Game Events – what’s happened this week?
10-Jun-3307 :- Salvation put out a message to try and track down the survivors of the Hephesus. It took the community approximately 24 hours with records been found by Cmdr Namix, sometime Friday Morning. For those that wish to follow the story and discover the logs, you can follow the thread at https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/mysterys-continuation-new-message-from-salvation.581536/ (Please bear in mind only people who completed the last Salvation mission got notified about this one.)
Shan’s thoughts and comments on how to rebuild trust, and crisis management. How to handle a crisis.. Fdev are doing the acknowledge with spin (I gave OA the same diagram and he mentions it in his vid)
Following yesterdays announcement, we have made the difficult decision that Lavecon 2021 will be online only. The online event will be the same dates 2nd – 4th July. The limit on size of indoor gathering and mandatory social distancing makes an event of this nature impossible to hold in person. Obviously we are very sad about this, but always knew that we were taking a risk by planning it so early in the year. For those who have booked tickets, we will be emailing you with a choice of: Carrying your ticket over to 2022. (If hotel prices go up there may be a small surcharge.) Full refund If you have a VIP ticket you will have the option to receive the VIP merchandise and have the refund/carry over to next year as a gold ticket. You would have the option to upgrade back to Platinum next year. Please note that the default position will be to refund your ticket if we don’t hear from you. Please do not message me about tickets via fb, Twitter or other social media. If you want to get in touch please drop me an email. We will also be selling 2021 polo shirts, Lavecon face masks, Lavecon hoodies and any left over merchandise packs on our website. We will aim to get these to you before the virtual event, subject to post/deliveries etc. I will get sizes available up on the website ASAP. Lavecon 2022 will be 1st – 3rd July 2022. We will be posting about the virtual event, but do feel free to make suggestions, offer to host content etc. Any streaming that weekend from the community, we are happy to promote these.
Those who have listened to the Hutton Truckers recently will already be aware that Aleks Zuno, that pirate-popping pilot who regularly tops the list for bounties, has created an online guide to how she does it, and how you, too, can improve your PVE.
A press release has been forthcoming, and it goes as follows: Imperial Navy Intervention and Rescue Approved for GalNet public release: “Hunter” A first-hand account of fast, fierce and effective starship combat for the 34th Century. https://iniv.space/hunter/
Just wondered if any of the Lave Radio crew have had problems trying to board ship from an SRV in Odyssey? A big thank you to Flossy for trying to help me the other day but logging into the game after the update today I’m still stranded beneath my ship. Yes, I know I can reboot in Horizons and appear in space but just wondered if anyone else had the same issue? Since Odyssey ‘landed’ I seem to have spent more time downloading patches than actually playing the game ….
7th June 3307 – According to the AXI, ss of this time all system which were under thargoid attack have been pacified. Congratulations to all bug smashing commanders who have saved humanity once again (as opposed to AEGIS).
Winning response ⚡CMDR GreyAreaUK⚡ 💙 on Twitter “The first thing I’ll be doing is spending a couple of frustrating hours setting up keybindings for the new bits – as I’m using a mix of input devices (HOTAS, iPad, Xbox360 controller) they won’t be auto-populated.”
Notable mentions (as picked by Ben):
Krisztian Balogh – Facebook Set up my keybindings. Theeen look for the xenobunny 👽🐇
Mark Jones – Twitter I’m parked next to a burning station. Fire I’m going to disembark and look inside the burning evacuation area as it asks you to do when rescuing people
Thadius Voke – Twitter Tough one but I think I shall be visiting Cmdr Jameson crash site, pay the respects before I set off.
Some Feedback on Odyssey from Community Member Temeleen
For me the topography in odyssey is overall better compared to horizons – if we disregard the obvious bugs in some of the planet generation tech like those LODs I mentioned. I think most of the issues I see in the videos and posts around talking about new tech being pure downgrade revolve around those LODs. As for the topo – we might not see so many extremes like 10km+ deep canyons or 15km tall mountains anymore, but I’d say that was a bit out of proportion in horizon since there wasn’t nearly enough level of detail as we have in odyssey so we don’t really need those extreme less plausible formations (all this if we consider ultra for capture setting being the “golden” standard in odyssey).
In odyssey some of the mountains in those screenshots are some 7km tall still so I don’t think everything is just flat as some streamers mention plus there’s whole another level of detail when it comes to terrains themselves and their surface materials, lots of variable formations due to height maps blending… the hills/mountain and canyons can get far more complex than they used to be with planets looking quite unique given the circumstances.
So yeah for me overall great improvement potentially If fdev figures out the bugs in the generation so ppl using regular ultra or lower settings wont see those ugly leopard patches or disappearing hills when they approach the surface. The new tech actually made me go out and explo for the view, something I never had as a main reason before.
Lavecon Covid Update: We are currently assuming the event will go ahead and planning for that.
However that relies on the covid restrictions being lifted in line with the government timeline.
If the government announces that will not be the case and the proposed date is after the event, then the event will not go ahead. We don’t think it is practical for the event to take place with the current social distancing requirements in place.
If this is the case we will offer full refunds or the option to roll your tickets over to next year. We would also put in place a virtual event similar to last years
If the event is able to go ahead and has no mandatory covid requirements in place, we will be asking for attendees to voluntarily take sensible precautions. This includes taking the free lateral flow covid test before attending, wearing a face covering, hand washing and, where possible, giving each other space. We will update you as soon as we have a definite way forward. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Erimus Kamzel: “The game has lost its soul. Not only have they monumentally botched a two-year in-development release, they also seem to have severed ties with their own lore and history. Check out Drew Wagar’s post in the Odyssey discussion forum, he nailed it.
Turning the Wheel is likely to be the last of the great community initiatives. Ones like Distant Worlds 3 are highly unlikely to occur now too, we’ve postponed it indefinitely.
There really needs to be a big change in the way Frontier treats its players. At this moment in time they don’t deserve this fantastic creative community, and if they don’t reembrace it or stop disrespecting it, they’ll lose it for good.”
Email from Cmdr Valaryc (val-uh-rick) : “Toward the end of Episode 342, you guys mentioned the percentages of players that had unlocked certain chieves on the Xbox side of things. Please know that I’ve not seen a single thing that verifies these percentages are correct, and as an Xbox player since the inception of Xbox, it doesn’t surprise me in the least that they’d be very inaccurate. So questioning the accuracy of said percentages of “people who’ve completed” ‘such-and-such’ in any game is a very reasonable and rightful thing to do. Do not take those numbers as absolute, or as any sort of measurable metric of any sort. I can all but guarantee they’re wrong. Take care all. -CMDR Valaryc (val-uh-rick) Q7”
Last week saw the PC release of Odyssey, the latest major expansion in the Elite Dangerous franchise. Although players suffered server connectivity issues in the first few days, we understand that many of those problems have now been resolved. Despite the challenges, player numbers have been relatively strong – at record levels for Elite Dangerous, as would be expected. Whilst additional concerns around game optimisation may take longer to fix, Frontier are working hard on resolving these through regular updates to ensure that players’ experience improves. We have no doubt that Elite will remain a successful multi-year franchise going forwards, as the company maintains its launch and nurture approach to creating long-lasting games. We keep our forecasts and Target Price unchanged.
Psykit and the Flight Assist Podcast team are raising money for CLIC Sargent on behalf of community member ColicoJac, who is sadly unable to at this time. Please consider donating what you can to help. Cancer is shocking, overwhelming, isolating… and completely unfair. Especially when you’re young. It takes over your life. Treatment is gruelling and your ambitions and dreams – education, relationships, career, travel – suddenly seem very far away.
We get that. That’s why CLIC Sargent fights tirelessly to stop cancer destroying young lives.